Rourke's Reply (to JWR's Original Comments)
Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005
You are going for an entire community then, in which case I would
recommend you actually form a Village and have self-government.
(City is too complex). Now Disney in Florida even made its own
county, but I
doubt that will happen again. Still, a Village can be very powerful
if you can do all the development up front. Set up police, fire,
even schools, and public buildings and systems with survival
in mind. What an opportunity. However, as it grows, the survival
mindset
of
those started it is likely to be diluted, and that will show
up in elections over time. As a primary residence community, I
think
it
will be hard to get such a concentration of survivalist in a
small area, thus I have gone toward the recreational retreat community
or condo idea, thus pulling them from all over to an area with
good survival capabilities.
I agree how great it would be to form an entire community with
all that, but very few from my experience can afford that, thus
I have
trimmed down my dreaming. In fact, in polling I found $10,000
down and $500 a month was about the maximum you could expect
from even
the upper 10% of survivalists toward a retreat (besides their
home). This is one reason I started with the condo idea, but
for people
with even lower budgets, I think the best solution is a trailer
park/RV park lot. Now this would involve having well, gray water,
and black
water hook-ups with a common septic system and well, common electric
off-grid power, a common building/bunker which will preferably
be an earth shelter or concrete dome (i.e. www.monolithic.com)
with community bathrooms, showers, and kitchen and emergency
housing,
so it will stand up to a tornado even if all the trailers are
lost. You make a good point about single source point failures,
thus
have dual systems set up would be a good idea, and over sizing
them, so
if one goes down, the other can pick up the slack. Hardened storage
would also be good idea. Selling a very small lot for $5,000
would provide a lot of money for such improvements, maintained
by a reasonable
monthly or annual fee. Also, such lot could be leased out when
that person is not there, just have a clause that they can be
asked to
leave within 24 hours and refunded the money, or some sort of
escape clause if the owner is bugging out the site. Used hunting
trailers
around here are around $2,000. It seems to me the least expensive
option. Once again, good to be near some farm land and an agreeable
farmer for food production. - Rourke
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