Here is the second round of responses to this question: Those who are well
educated enough to see a societal collapse of some sort or another in the making
fall into two groups, the merrymakers and the preparers. The merrymakers don't
see life worth living post-SHTF, so
they live it up now. We on SurvivalBlog are the preparers and have chosen to
survive, but why? Our children? To rebuild civilization? Because the collapse
will only be temporary? Because we can and we're stubborn with a stronger than
normal will to survive? The following is the second batch of
responses. A few of the following poll responses exceeded
the one paragraph limit, but they had substance so I decided to post them,
regardless:
Jim,
The survival seed was planted at when as a young boy I entered our Ohio basement "fruit
cellar" and noticed the stock of canned goods, candles and other necessities.
My mother explained that we might need the items if the "weather turned
bad". We never did need those items in the 1950s but the idea stuck.
For my family [living] in Alaska, it just makes sense to provide yourself with
comfort items should the SHTF. We have a self sufficient setup which is accented
by
a complete, mobile camping outfit and further enhanced with ultralight backpacking
gear. We are experienced in the use of this gear.
Silly as it may sound, if hard times come we do not want to be inconvenienced.
That is the simple answer. And that includes begging others for help and standing
in line to ask that the government do something.
Most important, we have incorporated preparedness into a normal enjoyable lifestyle.
And it just plain feels right.
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Life is tough. Challenges abound. Success is a drug that there is no anti-dote,
only garbage that clouds the “vision” to succeed.
Why prepare? When reading the responses to this poll, I noticed a common
reference
to a “near term” disaster such as “Katrina”. This truly
is a short term disaster. There is no reason that most of us can’t survive
any short term disaster. Let’s look back to the late 1920s
and early
1930s, or better yet, back to the original settler’s challenges,
those were Longer term, affecting several generations. Why do we make reference
to
the near term problems rather than the historic obstacles? I think it is a protective
mechanism that allows us to relate to “recent history” rather than “necessary
history”. Imagining a multi-generational collapse I admit is not in my
thinking, (to protect my fragile mind). But the labors of my grandparents and
their grandparents are not to trivial to be memorialized. History repeats
itself.
In the late twenties, a vast percentage of the population was “semi-self
sufficient” and lived in the rural area’s trading with neighbors
for the items needed that they did not produce themselves. Fast forward 80 years
and a scary few minorities produce the knowledge to be productive and have the
land to do so. Our forefathers could plan and survive even though difficult at
times, they did it. How will we as city dwellers with no productive skills for
the basics survive a similar economic tragedy? History repeats itself.
If more of us do not prepare, the likelihood of reverting back to the wagon train
era is inevitable. If we can do more now, it is prudent to the survival of this
great nation. This Nation is deserving of all of our love, and the things that
we don’t agree with can be politely demonstrated against, or we can use
the power we wield by voting for change. History repeats itself.
This country feeds the world, yet we squander it away in the pursuit of riches
by greed. What a disappointment to our forefathers to have what others want,
move it at all costs to further one’s pocket book, and not hold enough
back to help our family and friends. If everyone in this nation had a year’s
supply of food, then the vulnerability of this nation would greatly lessen, (see
the history of the noose that was placed around Russia and the tens of millions
that perished because of such starvation) After a “collapse”, our
productivity would be multi-generational leaps rather than microscopic advance,
if in fact we had the basics squared away. To get this great country back on
her feet, we need to first, take care of our needs so if the tragedy of life
happens, our focus can be productive, focused, and our return to glory inevitable. History
repeats itself.
Am I am optimist? Am I a pessimist? Am I aware of how things really are so delicate?
Do I love the country I live in enough to help bring her to her feet?
Be part of the solution, not part of the problem,…. An old saying is: “…problems
always work themselves out…” I don’t
want to be “worked out”, I want to help re-build, and not stress
in the basic needs of my family and friends, I want what I have now, the ability
to do much, and hopefully be surrounded by like minded friends no matter what
the economic situation of this country is. I love this country, I love my family,
I love the teachings of history even though history repeats itself. I love what
I have learned, and pray for what I have not. God Bless the USA.
--
Jim,
It occurs to me as I read the responses to this question that while I share
most of the reasons I am reading, including it is kind of fun, I also fear
that
I have within myself the capacity to do great evil if the need to provide
for my family in times of trouble comes and I am not prepared. In fact
this is
one of the questions I ask people whom I approach when they tell me something
vague about being okay. I ask them if they will really be able to sit by
and watch as their children starve? I get interesting looks and statements.
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I first became interested in the whole survivalist concept as an ER doctor,
early in my career in the late 80's. What I saw is that the government cannot
help people prevent problems, it only "cleans up" and tallies data.
The police are the best examples of this (call the police when a burglar
enters your home and they will gladly come and take a picture of your dead
body). Although I had hunted since childhood, I only became interested in
concealed carry, etc., after seeing case after case in the ER where people
died or were maimed, while hoping/waiting for the cops to come. The cops
did come, but always after the bad guys had done their deed. So much for
that.
Over the past decade, my lack of faith in government "Helping" has
grown more pervasive (in part due to working as a DOD doctor
during Desert Storm I) and now focuses on Peak
Oil (about which the government
will never
inform
you in any truthful way until its too late) and the US Dollar (which the government
and its goons (e.g. Kudlow et al on CNBC) say is just fine, along with the
economy as a whole). There will be no functional oil by 2030, and by 2015 (that's
just 8 years away), we'll see $10 per gallon at the tank, if we're
luck and if China/India do not grow any faster than they already
are.
All h*ll will have broken lose by then, as nearly everything we use comes from
oil or is related to it (think antibiotics, clothing, food,
not to mention our incessant "happy motoring" to go to work and take
kids to/from school and other activities). We will not be able to depend upon
transport
of veggies from 1000's of miles away and may have trouble even getting water,
depending upon where you get yours, just for starters. The sheeple, as another
writer on this forum pointed out, will become wolves. The goal is to be a better
prepared wolf, with stores of food, medicines, farming and mechanical equipment,
guns and ammo.
Oh yes, the US Dollar (USD); it has dropped about 30% in the past three years.
Yes 30%! China has announced that it will diversify out of the USD, as has
most of OPEC, Russia, et al. Only Saudi and Japan continue to support the $USD
for oil scheme, and that won't last much longer. When the USD drops below
80 on the USD index, that's it; we'll see 30 or 40 within a year or so, and
that will be a 50%+ devaluation from present levels. If you
look at every country in the world that has had its currency devalued (always,
BTW a sure result
of over use of the printing press), social degeneration has followed. Ordinarily,
governments become totalitarian when that happens, but I suspect that the Peak
Oil situation will prevent our government from doing anything but jawboning.
Cops won't be able to enforce anything at $10/gallon gas.
Peak Oil + USD devaluation = total social/economic breakdown. And, BTW, I
agree with other writers who have pointed out that its "pie in the sky" to
think we'll "simply return to 1890 and live happily ever after." 1890
technology could not support a highly urbanized, work challenged and bloated
population like ours. 10,000 BC is more likely, only with pockets of technology,
and ammo,
and a much smaller population. The only question left is when, not if, and
when is likely within a decade.
--
Because no one with any sense of self respect likes being a loser.
--
Hi Jim,
My family prepares for bad times because it is inexcusable not to prepare.
Bad things happen all the time - job loss, illness, accidents, etc., - as
well as all of the possible natural and man-made
disasters that could occur. Preparation is insurance that your family will
get through a rough time. Not preparing is a deficiency of character and neglectful
to your spouse and kids. Being able to
survive more easily through bad times will greatly improve your physical and
mental situation if it happens. In addition, you will be in better shape to
help others should you need to. If nothing ever
happens in my lifetime I will be thankful and will enjoy having a bit less
stress in my life because I did everything I could to keep my family safe and
protected.
--
Beside the fact that I've read the last chapter in The Book (Revelation),
there's peak oil & the coming die-off as petrochemical resources become
scarce, population stresses, a government that seems hell-bent on totalitarianism
of one flavor or the other (I keep praying that cooler heads will prevail,
but the past couple decades' experience doesn't build much hope.), external
political & economic turmoil, pollution, terrorism, a resurgent Russia,
Chinese war drums, froggy dictators with nukes, a weakening dollar, the list
goes on and on. The worst part is each one of these either feeds off or feeds
into the others. I'm betting that my children & grandchildren will live
in a much different world than the one I grew up in. My prayers are that it
will be a better one -- but I also realize (and in some cases, I'm very thankful
for the fact) that sometimes God says "No!" So, I prepare -- and
I attempt to prepare my sons to live in a world that looks more like their
Grandparents' world during the Great Depression than the one I grew up in.
Keep a stiff upper lip & watch your Six!
--
First off, I love your novel "Patriots".
Regarding the survey: We prepare because of the core morality we have: that
we aren't victims
and
we
don't want to depend upon the government for our welfare since that would
make us slaves. I believe every other political view we hold comes out of
this core belief, be it regarding the 1st and 2nd Amendments, welfare reform,
public education,
taxes, business regulation, Federal Reserve policy, etc.
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As to your query about why planning and striving to survive. At first I paused
and asked myself that same question...Why Survive? For what purpose? What will
I do when/if I do,
and when will I know that I have "Survived". I guess that initially
it came down to personal and immediate family survival. Our extended family
is fairly large and we are, what I consider to be, relatively "close" as
a family unit.
Although my immediate family considers me "alarmist" and "extreme" I
have still been planning and stockpiling as best that I can (afford) for all
of us when the SHTF.
(Whether the next "emergency" is natural or man-made.)
My personal survival is only to ensure the safety and well-being of my daughter
and to stand as a resister/witness against the "Anti-Christ".
National survival (the sovereignty of our Constitutionally-based government)
is doomed by the fact that the globalist cabal have already (over the last
couple of centuries) put into place people, politico-financial-industrial networks
and the military might to enforce their will, that resistance will be short
lived and futile. Our best effort will be to resist honestly and honorably
being witnesses against the evil that is closing its trap upon the unsuspecting
mass of sheeple. Although, conceptually, I can understand their reasoning,
I cannot in good conscience support their end result.
Survival, not just being a biological instinct, but in humans - a choice, we
are presented with not only mere physical requirements and consequences, but
also moral and ethical repercussions as a result of our choices. The faculty
of conscience, whether intact or corrupted, is a characteristic of God imbued
into mankind to act as a "moral compass" to influence and guide one's
actions. Our mind's/personality/character's (the soul's) decisions and consequent
actions are the basis upon which we shall be judged. So survival is not just
a matter of how we achieved it, but also how well we
achieved it.
Survival isn't just to get by, but to be able to provide the basis by which
our "way" of living (hopefully by the freedoms outlined in our Constitution)
continues into (at least) the next generation. We must do as much as we can
and as long as we are able. My personal "religious"/"reality" views
are that we all will "survive"; (continue on as beings) and that
our further existence will be far greater than that which we experience
now.
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I prepare because I am responsible for my family. I also realize that even
if our government is able to respond, they will not be able to do so immediately.
Just look at the response times for police and fire departments. Three to ten
minutes is not unusual and that is when the phone system is working and there
is no snow storm or other disaster such as [Hurricane] Katrina.
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I will survive because I'm too mean to die. Survival is a choice. Many people
choose to die rather than suffer the hardships that survival often requires.
In the next 10-to-15 years, the world population will almost certainly decrease
by 3-5 billion people for various reasons (mainly famine related to Peak Oil).
I plan to be one of the people who live. I don't have much interest in religion,
and I have no interest in leadership. People want to be sheep: let them follow
someone else to their doom. I will do what is necessary to survive and hopefully
enjoy the process as much as possible while I quietly duck away from trouble
others feel compelled to fight head on (and die in place). If you die for a
cause, you have failed at survival. Always remember that.
--
Because when I first heard the story of "The Three Little Pigs" I
got it. Make you house strong so the wolf can't blow it down. Do it right from
the beginning and the wolves wont get you. I have had a Survivalist mentality
since as early as I can remember. I think people have to be blind and deaf
to all around them not to catch on to the obvious, our lifestyle in
America is not stable. And no culture/society has ever been
stable. All the great ancient cities failed, USA is no different. 1 year or
1,000, USA will end. I am 30 years old and have seen many Third World countries.
I do not want to end up like that! I wish I could get everyone
to see what the real world is like and what we stand to lose. Incidentally,
my wife is
from one of those Third World countries. So in the end, a hand dug well, no
toilet paper and a dead 42 inch plasma TV suits us just fine because we know
we can
take care of ourselves. Being a Survivalist is the closest thing to being stable,
a Survivalist community is the closest thing to a stable society.
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I was in the Coast Guard during Hurricane Hugo and I saw how few people were
prepared, it made a huge impact on me. People were driving one hour for ice!
I also know that is my God given responsibility. Reading your book only reinforced
these thoughts. Thanks for all you do to wake up the sheeple.
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In response to why I am planning to survive. Is there any other rational choice?
I am preparing from a personal sense of mortality. Selfish as it is it is my
survival and hat of my immediate downline that I am concerned about.
Being the victim of a massive Stroke several years ago that left me partially
paralyzed on my left side, and disabled from my corporate America job. My earning
capacity went from $100K per year to less than $36K, in a stroke,
yes pun intended. With more time on my hands I see many many ways to do things
differently.
Our nation is an anchor to world events and I see that we are on a downward
spiral. We feel that we as Americans have in our scant 250 years of existence
gained the knowledge and expertise to control the whole world, by debt. I see
the collapse coming, and am in survival mode right now as to go from $100K
per year to less than $36K per year requires retooling. I think that much more
retooling will be required in several years
when we mostly all go from Dollars to Skills and actual work. The
one who owns a shovel can get some one to operate it for him, If you don’t
own the shovel, then you will be the one shoveling for me! Shovel long enough
and I will let you shovel it a while for yourself.. That is the way it is supposed
to work.Real work for real value. This is the legacy I am
intending to leave
for my kids.
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Because the prophets have said to. Because [LDS] President Gordon B. Hinkley
and the 12 have said to. Because I know it is the right thing to do. Because
the
Spirit tells me it is the right thing to do. To protect my family and loved
ones from the storms that will rage and be poured out without measure. And
because I want myself, my family, and others to hopefully make it through all
the tribulations in order to see the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior!
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Like one of the previous writers – I grew up in the 1950s when
Nuclear Was and bomb shelters were the norm. My dad made sure we prepared ourselves
for survival back then and I took over that responsibility after he died in
1967, as the sole surviving son in our family. It was ingrained in me and taught
as a responsibility – and it’s one that I take seriously. I am
now an ordained minister and believe that God has called us to prepare ourselves
spiritually, mentally, and physically for whatever comes our way in the future.
As I prepare my family for TEOTWAWKI or
whatever else may come, I am also preparing to share with others in need. As
I buy, make, grow or otherwise acquire I put
aside extra for charity and barter. I hope each and every survivalist, preparer,
and/or provider will do the same. Preparing to survive is not just so we can
live while others suffer or die; it is a duty and responsibility we have been
called to by our Creator. And, besides, it’s so much fun!
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I choose to prepare so my children will have a chance to live a full life.
By "full life" I do not mean a materialistic, consumption driven
competition to amass "more". I do not wish to ever have to look at
them and say there is no more food, I do not wish their lives cut short because
I chose not to prepare for what I know is coming. Many may think I am "strange",
but ever since I was a child I have always been drawn to acquiring knowledge
of natural food sources, survival skills, etc, and I have always known a time
would come when you can't just go to the grocery store when you need something.
I believe things will get very bad, I don't know for how long, I also believe
that "we" shall emerge at the end of that time, (after what I'm sure
will be an enormous "die-off"), and begin to put together a new society.
I prepare so that my children will have the chance to make it through the worst
times, become self sufficient, strong, and capable of building a new future
for themselves.
--
There are a myriad of reasons why my family prepares, and most of them have
been mentioned (Religious leaders instruction, Boy Scout motto, seeing the
writing on the wall, American self-reliance) and all of them have a great deal
of merit. Although I don't think any of us can totally prepare for TEOTWAWKI
there is a great deal we can do to prepare for the end of electricity/oil/food/water
as we know it.
I have few axioms that I live by that have served me well.
* If you are not prepared to care for yourself, be prepared to rely on the generosity
of others.
* I would rather have it and not need it. Than need it and not have it.
* You can never have too many knives or flashlights.
* Preparation is cheap insurance.
I love your site and have derived a great deal of information from it that I
pass on to others. Thank you for all of your hard work that you share with others.
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I guess many reasons, most likely though it was triggered when I was going
through a hard time in 1998 and Y2K was
coming. It just got me to thinking more about the future then the present.
Then I happened to come upon "Patriots" and
it started to motivate me to do more, then 9/11 hit and Like everyone else
I got a bit excited and started doing all sorts of things for prepping. There
are many other reasons too but those were my first ones. Namely now I do all
I can to get my mom and myself ready, mainly for a Bugout as we cannot survive
in the urban place were at. I also have taken up a bit of time with posting
flyers with a small 3 day kits explained and priced, by just going down to
the local Dollar store. Lastly, I want to die from old age not starvation or
an injury or by [be killed by] a nut, post-SHTF.
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Back when I first heard of survivalism, my first reaction was not "They
must be crazy!" like most of my fellow liberals, but "That's a good
idea." I realized that prepared people are our nation's life insurance:
if America falls apart, the survivors will revive it. I still had faith in
the government, but I admired independent people. After the Oklahoma City bombing,
I realized that if the government can't even protect its own workers from a
single man, it'll never be able to save us in a true disaster; I had to prepare
for disaster myself. When I learned that McVeigh was a survivalist, I saw that
thinking "the survivalists, whoever they are, will rebuild after I die
in the collapse " was as naive as thinking "the government, wherever
it is, won't let anything bad happen." Our nation is only as good as the
people in it. If some evil people will survive a collapse, then I have to make
sure that the good people who survive will outnumber them. I prepare because
I want to be one of the good survivors. It's my God-given duty to be a part
of this great nation, and if America breaks down it will be my duty to rebuild
it as an even better nation.
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Our founding fathers created this great Republic to be a beacon of hope for
humanity. Every day that we exist we prove their point that when government
is small people are big – then miracles happen.
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When you see the rain coming, you take an umbrella. When it rains, you open
it. How can I not prepare to survive with so many storm clouds clearly visible:
economic maladjustment, hedonistic society, government growth into incompetency,
and imminent crop failure, both in the US and abroad? Sticking my head in the
sand is a death warrant. Period. Maybe not all of the storms will hit but all
have the potential to be nasty...very nasty. I have a chance with a plan and
some extra supplies. Without a plan, I would wander aimlessly or panic, becoming
easy pickings for the predators that will certainly arise. With a plan I have
fortitude of spirit and the knowledge that most of those I interact with in
troubling times will not have a plan, leaving me with an advantage. Maybe a
slim advantage, but that may be all I need to come out alive. I pity the countless
souls that will come to a sad end because they didn't or wouldn't pay attention
to the gathering storm clouds.